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that was really going nowhere and they moved o'rielly to 8:00 p.m. during the clinton monica lewinsky scandal and overly connected with this audience who was outraged at bill clinton and overly sense the drama of the story and his ability to get his guests to engage in his fiery interviewing style. i describe in the book as an irish street cop. he has an ability to laser in on what the issue is. that's a testament to o'rielly's center. he is the highest rated show on fox. he can do what he wants and ailes jokes that o'rielly uses his show to sell looks and promote himself. it really is because ailes has this respect for o'rielly is a self-made man. >> host: or riley has come out of ways on immigration and gun control. you said because he is powerful powerful -- >> guest: he can do what he wants and he has his own audience. o'rielly really is an interesting, he is essentially the one talent at fox with some exceptions with sean hannity who is very different. john hannity is very much in lockstep with what roger ailes wants. bill shine who is roger ailes or graham deputy was for years sean hann
the clinton and monica lewinsky scandal and o'reilly can did with this audience was outraged and he said thatdrama of the story and to aspire the style i described them in the book as almost like an irish street cop to please her in on what the issue is. so i think that is a testament to the power center and he has the numbers he has the highest rated show and i it is the lincf the prime time lineup. and ailes jokes that o'reilly uses the show to sell his books and promote himself, but it's because ailes has a respect that o'reilly is a self-made man. >> host: o'reilly has come out in ways that you are describing on immigration and on gun control. you're saying because he is powerful -- >> guest: there are a factor of viewers. they have some exception. they are in lockstep with what they want and it's interesting to note the programming deputy and it's that line between sean hannity where he can get what he wants on the air through hanni hannity. >> host: let's come back to a couple things about the election. there is a famous moment where karl rove's who's been on fox is raising money a
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